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    Catterpiggle coming back

    Indiana's new Right To work law has opened the door to Caterpiller to move its Canadian Plant back to USA!! It seems they had a dispute with the Union up there on higher wage and pension costs.

    Hope other states are seeing the "light".
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    Just wait until the NLRB steps in. I'll bet they say Caterpiller has to remain union regardless of what the state law says. Obama's cronies are like that, you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Just wait until the NLRB steps in. I'll bet they say Caterpiller has to remain union regardless of what the state law says. Obama's cronies are like that, you know.
    That will be an interesting argument when it hits the court system, since it will be a states rights issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by haikon View Post
    That will be an interesting argument when it hits the court system, since it will be a states rights issue.
    Lincoln killed state's rights.

    Besides, Caterpiller engages in interstate commerce giving the feds jurisdiction. (according to the feds)

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    Hardline employers have had their sights on unions since the 1930s, when organized labour in Canada and the U.S. first started to make serious gains.

    One of their biggest targets has been compulsory check-off (known as the Rand formula in Canada, following a landmark 1945 ruling by Supreme Court Justice Ivan Rand).

    Under that formula, all relevant employees in a workplace organized by a trade union must pay union dues. (I was forced to pay years ago and STILL think it's BS!!)

    The rationale here was simple: if a union provides services to all workers in a bargaining unit then everyone in that unit — whether fans of organized labour or not — must chip in to pay the costs.

    It was a fair formula, in that it prevented so-called free riders from gaining services they didn’t pay for.

    But it also allowed unions to become lazy. With dues automatically coming in, trade unions did not have to convince members of their usefulness.

    For some workers, unions became just another bureaucracy to endure.

    From the 1950s onward, state governments in the largely non-unionized U.S. south took advantage of this antipathy, as well as provisions of that country’s labour legislation, to pass right-to-work laws that banned compulsory check-off.

    As expected, these states remained non-union.

    But now the fight is heating up. The aim now is not just to keep unions from organizing in, say, South Carolina.

    It is to bust those unions that still do exist — in places like Indiana and Ontario. My thought is get rid of mandatory checkoff and make the Union prove it's worth or GTFO!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Just wait until the NLRB steps in. I'll bet they say Caterpiller has to remain union regardless of what the state law says. Obama's cronies are like that, you know.
    Just like they did with Boeing...
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    Unions are the reason jobs are disappearing to others countries, they are just to dumb to realize that. The union leaders have to keep the hatred up so they themselves will have jobs.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LawDog View Post
    Just like they did with Boeing...
    Yup! That's why I think Caterpiller is screwed even though the state has become right to work.

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    Caterpillar is such as traditional entity in our country it would be ashamed for it to let the unions screw it up, not sure about right now but just a few years ago there were still some old slide bar 8's on logging shows. Have many hours on one of them and the old 3T seven while in the army engineers.
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    I worked for a Union grocery store in the mid seventies, the shop steward came to me and said I was not paying my dues........1.75 a month, I told him I did not want to pay and he told me I would be fired that week........done with unions since that day.......btw I paid the 1.75 until I found another job. I abhor unions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TxMusky View Post
    Unions are the reason jobs are disappearing to others countries, they are just to dumb to realize that. The union leaders have to keep the hatred up so they themselves will have jobs.

    Sounds like politics.

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    move it you "got the powera ramma jamma stuff"

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    was not meaning it is in the wrong forum... just that the need to keep hatred in the game sounds like political practices.


    The fact that people have so much hatred and anger are the primary reason I have no stomach for anything political.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillbo View Post
    was not meaning it is in the wrong forum... just that the need to keep hatred in the game sounds like political practices.


    The fact that people have so much hatred and anger are the primary reason I have no stomach for anything political.
    The legends of nannies lined up to rule your life as they deem proper will love to hear that, Phil.
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    Bo, I wasnt trying to be political at all, just stating a few facts and truths. Look around you, even school systems are having problems with teachers being paid outrageous sums of money for retirement funds while many schools cant even afford to hire good teachers at all. How many factories and businesses have either closed their doors or moved to another country just to stay competitive.

    It real life staring you right in the face, you refusing to acknowledge it or try to blame it of on something else doesnt fix the problem or make it go away. If that was the case we could have clicked our heels together three times many years ago and be riding unicorns and chasing rainbows all day.


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