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  1. 09-04-2011, 11:20 PM #1
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    F the tea party ann F the ultra left

    That is where I am............
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    Quote Originally Posted by chew 'n' spit View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by chew 'n' spit View Post
    That is where I am............
    I knew we would meet up sooner or later.
    Extremists on either side of the political spectrum is bad.



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    Few things are all good or all bad and these two are no different.

    I'll ignore the ultra left--which is what they deserve---but the Tea Party has potential.

    However, until they gain enough maturity to move from ideologues to pragmatists they might continue to influence the discussion for a time but have limited influence beyond that. If they can't manage that transition they will fade quickly.

    They need to stop acting like spoiled kids with a new toy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Grubb View Post
    Few things are all good or all bad and these two are no different.

    I'll ignore the ultra left--which is what they deserve---but the Tea Party has potential.

    However, until they gain enough maturity to move from ideologues to pragmatists they might continue to influence the discussion for a time but have limited influence beyond that. If they can't manage that transition they will fade quickly.

    They need to stop acting like spoiled kids with a new toy.
    OMG!!!! I agree with you that the Tea Party has potential. But they have NO LEADER----No "corporate headquarters", so to speak. The one thing I believe they do have is morality, which is lacking in the Ultra Left. And that works in our favor at the voting booth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fulltimer View Post
    I knew we would meet up sooner or later.
    Extremists on either side of the political spectrum is bad.



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    "Extremism In The Defense Of Liberty Is No Vice."

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    Well I'll tell you where I am.. given that people on the far right and the far left believe in their ideals and are not willing to compromise on them to me shows strength of conviction, on either side. Take abortion as an example. If you are for it, you are for it. If you are against it you are against it. If you're kinda wishy washy on it, then grow a set and take a stance. Same with gun control, or any other agenda really. If you are "moderate", then what do you really believe in, and how much are you willing to compromise your beliefs? If you are willing to compromise them, then how much do you really believe in them? Yes, the extremes on either side make it harder to get things done, but I for one admire their ability to take a stand for what they believe...
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    If you are "moderate", then what do you really believe in
    I can't believe there is still confusion about this.
    Moderate does not mean someone is on the fence, or lacks conviction or something. It just means that rather than believing an issue is a black and white you realize the world doesn't actually work that way.

    Taking your abortion example. There are those who think abortion is NEVER ok. Ever. There are those who think it should ALWAYS be an option, no strings attached.
    However, most people fall somewhere in between those two extremes. The mother's life is at stake. The mother was raped by her own father and would never be able to bear to carry the evidence of that. Allowed, but only after extensive counseling. Allowed, but only with parental permission. Etc, etc.

    Just because one can see that there might be reasonable exceptions or limitations doesn't mean they haven't taken a stand. It means they understand that most of life is not a simple, cut-and-dried yes or no.
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