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    I just watched a National Geographic Explorer special on the history of smallpox, and I admit that it scared me to death. There were many things that I did not know about this disease in the program, and many that I did. I knew that the disease has not been seen actively in a human since the 1980’s, that our immunity vaccinations were no longer effective, that the disease is airborne and that the only two known repositories of the virus are the Vector lab in Russia and the CDC in the US, but it is highly suspected and feared that rogue states hold some also. What I never had seen before was film of the horrible disease processes, and been presented with the facts of the devastation to entire cultures this disease has brought over the ages until very recently.

    The erstwhile eradication of the disease was engineered with great effort and resolve through perhaps mankind’s most earnest international cooperative effort, ever. Now, fears of catastrophic undoing of that work are well placed. Is there any doubt that some people are present on this planet that would unleash this disease on us, and by its natural progression, on their own? Not to me.

    Should we wait to inoculate? Seems that I heard elsewhere that the reasons for the wait were twofold – not enough vaccine for everyone now, and there are some side effects to the vaccine. Perhaps someone here has better knowledge on that matter. It was not covered in the special.

    Two mentions in the piece alarmed me the most. One, the Russians (and perhaps the US as well) were working on a more virulent strain of the virus, which would be worse than the disease which has already proven to be mankind’s worst enemy, and perhaps beyond the protection of the cowpox vaccine. And, two, if the Iraqi’s do not already have it, it persists at least one hundred fifty years with the bodies of the dead in the grave! It will be available to determined lunatics and monsters for at least as long as you and I are alive no matter what we do. Evidence is mounting that we have among us one (or more) homegrown lunatic/monster that planted pestilence in the mails.

    I formulated a rule in my practice of tort law that I called “Joe’s Law” that states – given enough time, if something bad can happen, it will happen. Pray that I am wrong.
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    YES

    It sure does wacojoe and I saw that program to.

    Something else along these lines that bothers me is the Ebola type viruses, and they have found some weird strains of similar one in the rain forests of South America also. The terrioest could get twenty or so of their mules and infect them with the virus and then legally fly them into our country while they were in the incubation period and then they could inv=fect many people with the virus. Can you fathom the chain reaction that would follow.

    After the WTC makes one wonder if that is not how AIDS was introduced into our nation??? Could have been done very easily at that.
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    I saw that piece as well. Scary.

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    Smallpox itself is scary, that's why for all intent and purposes it was destroyed years ago. Now thier is a couple of places that have some stockpiled for research and rumors of a super small pox.

    However, now the threat of smallpox is getting all kinds of play.

    We must take pause and think if the threat is there or if it's been blown way out of size and scope. What is the real threat of smallpox being used as a weapon.

    What about all the other bio "toys" that can be used as weapons like Botulinum Toxin, Brucellosis, Pneumonic Plague Primary, Q Fever, Ricin Toxin, Staphylococcal Enterotoxin B, Typhoidal Tularemia, Viral Encephalitides and Viral Hemorrhagic Fever Oh and don't forget about Anthrax as it's back in the news.

    Yes, I'm respectfull of smallpox but as it being used as a weapon against us. Nope, no worry be happy

    Seriously, where do we draw the line about being knowledgable, weary and overreactive??????? While I'd like to have some knowledge of decomtananation procedures and actions to take if some kind of bio weapon is used I'm not going to alter my lifestyle just cuz they threat is possibly there.

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    I found this old thread looking for one I remember posting in the dim past in which I foresaw evil people of the ilk that create and propagate destructive computer viruses just for the malicious fun of it who could then use the ever more easily accessed CRISPR gene splicing techniques to create and propagate devastatingly more destructive biological viruses on the populace with the same motivation and malevolence. I was not able to find that specific thread, but this one is close as it specifically warns of smallpox as a prime target vehicle for such mayhem. The thread was initiated right before SARS-1 and coronavirus was discovered to be a spiffy new vehicle for human misery.

    While the rogue individual with the abilities necessary and evil inclination remains a possibility, the same threat to us all from organized government action, as brought to light by the actions associated with the Wuhan Institute of Virology working in concert with our own mad scientists and the People’s Liberation Army virologists, has been brought home over the graves of millions. Now we learn the Chi-Coms have imminent plans for a series of dozens of more labs just like WIV to further threaten the world.

    https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2020/...hern-province/


    That not being enough, 23 other countries are said to be joining the fun with their own similar biology labs —

    https://www.independentsentinel.com/...itary-can-use/

    What is that old salutary Chinese greeting/admonition, “May you live in interesting times.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by wacojoe View Post
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    A quote that summarizes this thread direction as a pandemic most probably issuing from a lab in which it was built and designed to most efficiently infect and kill engulfs the world —

    "... we now live in a world where technology has enabled both states and even individuals to cause a level of disruption that it might once, 100 years ago, have taken war to achieve." — Rosa Brooks
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