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my apologies, this would be better as a pm but my phone won't give me the option. Some time ago you posted about a trade school being supported by industries, I think in NC? can you recall for me what that was? 2nd child is looking at options and I can already see she is not university material. I'm steering her to possibly electrician training to start, just to get her underway.
An electrician is a good trade, did it all my life, even learned how to screw in a light bulb.
I don't know if she would be interested but welders can make an incredible amount of money if they have the certs and skills.
Candace is a welder...There os still a high demand for pipeline welders...:thinker:...BenQuote:
Originally Posted by Mike
I already knew that. Not questioning her skills at all, but to get the really big bucks you must have the certs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Truckman
Obviously...I was never certified, so my paid welding was limited to production lines...Unfortunately a lot of that is now handled by robotics...Choosing the right welding (or any other trade) school and gaining the necessary certifications is the best way to enter the field...:handshake:...BenQuote:
Originally Posted by Mike
You have an excellent memory T :cool:
I think this will get you started:
As to the welding suggestion---especially as it pertains to pipeline work, I would hate to see your daughter go in that direction! I hate to sound like a prude but that is no life for a young lady. In a former life I had what is called down hand welders working for me----I am saying this with that experience in mind. One of the best, even on the coldest day would go to his truck at coffee break and drink a beer while snacking on his Oreos HeadbangQuote:
European Style Apprentice Program Succeeds in the USA
Blum Inc., an Austrian based company with production facilities in North Carolina, in conjunction with Switzerland based Daetwyler Corporation, founded a European style apprentice program in 1995. The program includes a partnership with Central Piedmont Community College, the North Carolina Department of Labor and local public school districts. Today this program includes eight partner companies and 27 local school districts from which the program actively recruits candidates.
This program requires a significant commitment from the partner companies. Blum estimates the current cost of their program is $160,000 per apprentice for the four year program. After 17 years they remain convinced of the value of that investment to assure the future growth of their business.
The program is four years in length totaling 8,000 hours, 1600 of which are at Central Piedmont College and 6400 in the apprentice center at Blum. At the conclusion of the program every successful graduate receives an AAS degree from Central Piedmont, a Journeyman’s certificate from the North Carolina Department of Labor and a guarantee of a full time job at a competitive salary—with no contract.
Adding to the benefit for the participants, they are paid during their four year training and graduate with no student loans.
While it might seem risky to invest $160,000 in someone’s education with no obligations to remain with Blum, they have experienced a retention rate of 80% of the program’s graduates.
There are some key elements that help make this program successful that are not outwardly apparent. First is the “sales” effort that the participating companies put into attracting candidates. These companies sell the program to the public schools by working with school counselors, they sell themselves to the parents and they sell themselves to the candidates. They do this via a structured plan. They work directly with the schools to provide information; they speak to potential candidates and invite both the candidates and their parents into their facilities and apprentice centers. Additionally, prospective candidates are invited to enter the program on a trial basis in their senior year and equally divide their time between their high school classes and working in the company.
The companies also work closely with Central Piedmont College and meet quarterly to assure the curriculum remains relevant and to assure common policies are maintained.
Blum saw a potential road block that could limit their growth potential and rather than accept that as being out of their control they proactively took action to assure their own future. As increasing numbers of foreign companies pursue manufacturing in the US more similar programs are being established.
There are choices to be made: we can choose to wring our hands and complain about the lack of skilled workers and the bleak future manufacturing has, or we can choose to take charge of our own future and get involved in changing the status quo.
These companies did not wait and hope someone else would fix their problem. What are you going to do?
well she's not a physical type really, so I explained there would be trenching and drilling as a journeyman but once she got her lic lackeys would do the grunt stuffQuote:
Originally Posted by Mike
thanks Dave.
I know numerous welders.. its not the welding that is at issue, its where they have to do the work. Dropped into shafts, tanks, boilers.. on beams.. nope, not the type of thing she would enjoy at all
It was just an idea I had about getting big bucks. I would never recommend her to be doing it on-site in a construction environment. Too much could go wrong there. But, there are jobs in fabrication that pay quite well without getting your shoes muddy.
To that I agree--- but more and more production welding is done by robots--- better to learn how to program the robots or maintain them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike
Excellent idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Grubb
I am curious as to what kind of skills Dave’s Journeyman program trains. I read the promo twice and must have missed what jobs were being trained.
Carpenters and finishers.Quote:
Originally Posted by wacojoe