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Are you kidding me, Fred?...:confused:...Ben
Could it be that he hasnt done anything worth even checking into? You made the best example in your own thread. If he has done nothing that anybody that is against him can point out is a good point means he has done nothing that is noteworthy for his opponent to even give him credit for. That is truly embarrassing when Obozo has done nothing even lukewarm enough for a respectful competitor to say "Yes he does this well" and even worse when all anybody can say is ....He campaigns well.
Dont get all heartbroke Fred, just because you back the worst POTUS the country has ever had and you have to keep pulling for the competition to make your points for you. A mans record speaks for itself and your man has nothing to stand on ,but a big mouth that spouts half truths and lies and more smoke and mirrors than a Vegas magic show.
Here's something on his record as President showing what others around the world think of it...Of course, it's a Fox News article so I'm sure it's just a big lie...
Frankly, Fred, I'm flabbergasted that you would bring up this topic...Did you get bored with your model train layout?...:zzz:...Ben
"whiners" .. really? You call others whiners and don't consider yourself to be one as well?
When I discuss 0Bama I'm not whining, I'm shouting and shaking a fist. There's a difference. Whining connotes helpless inaction. You'll see action next January when your messiah moves out of the White House.
Well Fred, your guy said he was going to do just about everything but reverse the course of the Mississippi River!! He had both houses of Congress for two full years and still did nothing that can be considered worthwhile. Romney at least has a record that anyone can go back and check into, which is more than we could say about that idiot you elected! He was an elected US Senator and voted "present" on many bills, now his job was to vote either for or against or change it to make it better and the best he could do was say he was there? Thats not leadership, it is obvious that all he was doing was playing his political game.
Romney on the other hand was out in the real world, he was one of the leaders that made the Olympics happen in Utah. He has been a very successful businessman and made himself as well as his investors a lot of money....which by the way was his job. Sure he did some stupid things as well, as has everyone, but Obozo hasnt done crap!!
We don't know yet who the "other guy" will be that takes the helm from the failed Presidency of Mr. Obama...Admittedly, the choices that have come forth from either of the major parties are pathetic...As the election approaches, we'll have a clearer picture of who it will be and we'll be able to draw better conclusions...For myself, I still have hopes of an independent with the vision and the courage to make the painful decisions needed to restore America as a world leader...Maybe it will happen in my lifetime and maybe it won't...
At this point, all I know is that he hasn't been elected yet in modern history...As you may remember, Fred, when Mr. Obama was elected, I urged everyone here to give him the same chance we called for with his predecessors...He's had his chance, he's failed, now let's move on to someone who has a clearer idea of what is needed...
You seem to have the choice narrowed to Mr. Obama and the unknown Republican candidate, which is a short-sighted assessment of what is needed...So focusing on your parameters, and since even loyal Democrats can see what an absolute flop the Obama presidency has been, what Democrat candidate would you propose to challenge Obama at the convention this summer?...Because surely even you must see that America must have a change...:2cents:...Ben
Good neutral post Ben. It all goes back to the people holding each politician accountable for their actions, good or bad. We vote for them by what they tell us they will do,if they dont do what they say, then its a good indication that we were either lied to or the person is not capable of doing what they themselves said.
There is no time for excuses and blaming everyone else for their failures is not a good way to show leadership. Life is full of twists and turns and a leader must be able to plan and account for things going wrong and still lead the way to the end. If all else fails a good leader will take the blame for his shortsightedness and blame himself for not being able to overcome the difficulty. A piss poor leader will blame everyone else and say that they were prevented from achieving their goals by others. Even a foot race depends on the road being hard to judge as other runners want the same prize....ever see an Olympic sprinter blame his shoes or his jogging shorts for losing or maybe the other racers should have given him a head start??
Obozo was destined to fail the minute he started the first blame game and he should have been exposed for the fraud he is way back then.
Fred, let's look at this another way, what has O done that is positive for his election.........Please don't go for the killing of the dude in Pakistan...........
I still think Fred may be a bot. I've lost count of how many times he's been asked to explain his unswerving support for 0Bama. And, like others have already said, this forum has no shortage of specific complaints and opinions about 0Bama's shortcomings. Vacations, campaign promises, forking over tons of money to loyal donors who start up green businesses that go belly up, health care "reform", class and race warfare, His inability to take responsibility for his failures, his shameless bald faced lies, his inability to understand what made this Nation great, his dogged determination to run America down....
It's all out there Fred, I'd suggest reading up on those posts.
I suspect it's much like the lady I saw and tried to help as I was coming out of the grocery store the other day. She was frantically driving around the parking lot looking for a place to park, and when she came around again I motioned to her and pointed out a vacant handicapped parking spot. In a very irritated voice she yelled "I'm not handicapped", to which I replied "Oh, I'm sorry ma'am, I saw your obama 2012 sticker and just presumed".......she flipped me off and drove off. Geeze, some people......I was just trying to help......
Vacations aren't my main complaint Fred, it's just what I started the long list with. I'd love to see 0Bama take a really long vacation (as in retirement from public office) this January. How about the other issues "campaign promises, forking over tons of money to loyal donors who start up green businesses that go belly up, health care "reform", class and race warfare, His inability to take responsibility for his failures, his shameless bald faced lies, his inability to understand what made this Nation great, his dogged determination to run America down.... "
And, now that I think about it you didn't even respond to what you thought my main complaint was.....
nor has he been able to come up with one good reason the first gay president deserves another term....
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/0...y-love-America
An open letter to the people who hate Obama more than they love America
I meet you all the time. You hate Obama. You hate gay people. You hate black people, immigrants, Muslims, labor unions, women who want the right to make choices concerning their bodies, you hate em all. You hate being called racist. You hate being called a bigot. Maybe if you talked about creating jobs more than you talk about why you hate gay people we wouldn't call you bigots. Maybe if you talked about black people without automatically assuming they are on food stamps while demanding their birth certificates we wouldn't call you racist. You hate socialism and social justice. You hate regulations and taxes and spending and the Government. You hate.
You like war. You like torture. You like Jesus. I don't know how in the hell any of that is compatible, but no one ever accused you haters of being over-committed to ideological consistency. You like people who look like you or at least hate most of the things that you hate. You hate everything else.
Now, I know you profess to love our country and the founding fathers (unless you are reminded that they believed in the separation of church and state), but I need to remind you that America is NOT what Fox News says it is. America is a melting pot, it always has been. We are a multi-cultural amalgamation of all kinds of people, and yet you still demonize everyone who is not a rich, white, heterosexual christian male or his submissive and obedient wife.
You hate liberals, moderates, hell, anyone who disagrees with Conservative dogma as espoused by Fox News and Rush Limbaugh. You hate em.
Well, here are the facts, Jack. If you hate the Government then you are unqualified to manage it. If you hate gay people more than you love America than you should take your own advice and get the hell out. There are several countries that are openly hostile to gay people, but they are full of brown people and you don't like them much either from what I understand. It looks like you are screwed, but that's not what I am here to tell you.
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It get's better but then I know many will not read it and just rant on.
Speaking for myself- I don't hate anyone, not even 0Bama. I am opposed to many things 0Bama does; class warfare, race warfare, dividing Americans rather than uniting Americans. I don't hate period, not gays, not liberals, not even bafoons who write nonsense for the dailykos that you feel sums it all up.
Im right there with you, I dont hate anyone, but I do severely dislike people who assume that just because I dont agree with their guys ideas it means I hate them personally.
OH by the way Fred, I voted today in the local elections. I picked my wife up at her office and walked down to the other end of the courthouse so we could both do early voting. She works for the County Clerk and her desk is 5 feet away from hers. She had to go back to her desk and get her drivers license out of her purse to vote. I dont see what all the fuss is about, the law is the law, even though she works the elections, she has to show picture ID like everyone else.
For the life of me, I can't understand why you folks keep feeding this troll. Headbang
Well calling all of us haters because we disaagree with the way things are going is not going to make you any friends. My question to you and the "Hate Letter" composer....Why dont you follow some of your own advice, seems like he hates Fox News and Rush Limbaugh, so why should any of the other crap that is written be taken seriously? People like that see disagreement against their beliefs as hate, yet spew their own sides version of "beleifs" as being okay. Thats how dumb the looney left really are, its ok for them to not like something, but the rest of the planet should believe what they believe or else be labeled as haters. Plain and simple....stupid.
Since this is the purgatory, i will assume opinion can be given freely. Again i will say that the OP really is a troll and is truly oblivious to what goes on due to blind support. The absolute stupidity of posting this ridiculous thread only solidifies the belief that no attention is paid in other forums regarding posts, diversion tactics failing, is beyond baiting and is now chumming, simply because the thought of "ABO" is going to drive them over the edge.
Fred i wish no ill towards you, but the purchase of a tractor is definitely needed for you. maybe, just maybe, the gov't will send one out, free to you and purchased with tax payer funds, for you to use.