The thread title is President Trump's words, not mine...Supposedly a big-time ISIS jackal has bowed to Allah for the last time...A "major statement" is forthcoming in a few minutes...:peace:...Ben
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The thread title is President Trump's words, not mine...Supposedly a big-time ISIS jackal has bowed to Allah for the last time...A "major statement" is forthcoming in a few minutes...:peace:...Ben
From this morning's WSJ:
Looks like the guys took care of some unfinished business on the way out the door :cool:Quote:
Islamic State Leader Targeted in U.S. Military Raid
The U.S. military targeted the head of Islamic State, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, in a raid in northwestern Syria that U.S. officials said resulted in the death of an individual.
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I hope he went out screaming.
That is good news.
Hunter
No worries some other idiot will take up the cause. Then we can play wack-a-mole all over again.
The fruits of a 1400-year hideous religion, and “yes,” as Fred says, there is never a surcease of Mohammedan fanatics dying to take up the cause.
I read that he was "ratted out" by one of his wives, I hope that is the case.
I can't think of anything more appropriate for one of those guys than to be taken out by a woman :clap: :clap: :flower:
I was thinking last night about the irony on both sides of this "success". The one I noted above---the other is those men and women of our intel units and military who put this plan together and executed it successfully---kudos to them :clap: Despite trump's best efforts to claim this for himself even the most devoted fan cannot fail to acknowledge that this took place and succeeded without the "guidance and micro management' of trump. The irony is that those same folks who trump continues to demean and deride are the very same professionals that made this happen.
Even some here who are critical of government workers---maybe keeping this (and many others) in mind before going on a tantrum would be appropriate.
I, for one, honor their service:usa::usa::clap::hatoff:
Trump did approve the plan at some political risk should the plan fail, as did Obama with the last Jihadi scumbag. Apparently today’s leading Democrat presidential candidate, Joe Biden, was always opposed of Obama’s approval for political reasons.
I can't say enough to honor these folks---the ones that planned and the ones that executed it---job well done!
From today's WSJ:
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Although the tunnel caved in on Baghdadi and the three children, troops were able to collect DNA samples which were tested on-site by lab technicians traveling as part of the missions. Some pieces of Baghdadi’s body were “brought back” by U.S. troops, the president said.
A field analysis on the remains in the tunnel provided for a preliminary conclusion that the person who died there was Baghdadi. A conclusive analysis was completed overnight, corroborating that conclusion.
I didn't give Obama the credit when we got Osama (although some here lavished it on him) and I am not going to give Trump the credit for Bag-O-Daddy. I refuse to politicize such a great moment for our country to rid the world of these types of vermin.
Here's one member of the raider team who decidedly deserves credit...:clap:...Ben
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/201...e-s800-c85.jpg
I'm glad we have a fat cat bad guy dead, but I found the whole pop-culture sensationalism somehow distasteful. Seemed like the only thing missing was a pic of the Trump boys posing with the trophy. :shrug:
This is not a commentary on anyone else's opinion, just an uncomfortable vibe probably all my own.
I do not have any reservation about gloating on the ignominious death of this creature. His memory should be properly reviled and his carcass despoiled. What is left of him should be interred wrapped in pig skin. He earned it in spades.
I get what you're saying.:shrug: I am glad the soldiers who actually do the dirty work don't gloat. At least not until the wee hours.:usa:
I'm with Curt, seems to me all we did was make a martyr out of him. The bigger we make the prize the more glory he gets from the rest of the cave men. There's a thousand of them just waiting to take his place and the highest honor he'll get will be us saying his name.
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Nothing to be concerned about a mere austere Islamic scholar according to the inimitable WaPo.
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Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Hunter
This from this morning's Daily Briefing in the NYT:
Previously I had read the "source" was one of his wives :shrug:Quote:
ISIS leader was betrayed by one of his own
Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the leader of the Islamic State, spent his last months hiding in a part of northern Syria dominated by rival jihadist groups. And he was paying one of those groups protection money — at least $67,000, receipts show.
The rival group kept his secret, but Mr. al-Baghdadi was betrayed by one of the few people he trusted, two American officials said, leading to his death in a Special Forces raid.
Background: The informer’s identity remains a secret. But one individual with knowledge of the events described him as “a very, very close, trusted confidant” of the ISIS leader.
The details: Six other people were killed in the compound, the Pentagon said, in addition to Mr. al-Baghdadi and the children he took with him when he detonated a suicide vest. American forces recovered laptops, cellphones and thumb drives that could provide a window into the organization.
Maybe there was more than one. $50 million bounty is quite attractive.
Regarding the obit reported to be in the WP---Joe has that one right---there was a long condemning OPED in the WSJ about that. You have to wonder where someones head was who wrote that---and it made it into the paper.
The article in the WSJ stated that it immediately came under criticism and was taken down quickly.
I did not see any similar insult in the NYT.
I think Homeland Security should pay them a visit to determine the source of the obit and then have a "chat" with the source.
And the next target is...:rpg:...Ben
It now appears that one of the cowardly terrorist's wives along with other family members have been captured by the Turks...:cheer:...BenQuote:
Islamic State spokesman Abu Hassan al-Muhajir, considered a potential successor to Baghdadi, was himself killed in northwestern Syria in a separate attack by U.S. forces, a senior State Department official confirmed to Fox News last week.
I doubt the Turks have a huge number of liberal lawyers just waiting to raise hell about a little waterboarding..
I'm not sure she is going to like what happens next.
The making of Conan...Thumbup...Ben
Good article! Thanks, Ben.
The happy warrior...Conan always wears that big grin...She obviously loves her work, not to mention the publicity...I predict a showbiz career when she retires from the Army...:march:...Ben
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf2jvX0xwko
The Belgian Malinois are the military dog breed of choice today. My friend found an abandon one and he was a wonderful companion to him until the day my friend died. His dog gave him great comfort in his illness. Conan is the most handsome one I can remember seeing and obviously superbly trained. I would love to meet her.
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“Eschew obfuscation, espouse elucidation” - Mrs. Miller, third grade homeroom teacher... — Ben
I had a Mrs. Miller for my 5th grade teacher at Sanger Avenue Elementary School. All I remember her saying was, “Joe, go into the cloakroom until you learn how to live properly with the rest of the class.”
You too---I spent a big part of the 5th grade in the cloakroom also. Being out of sight, I continued my same bad behavior, mostly unobserved. :pimpgrin:Quote:
I had a Mrs. Miller for my 5th grade teacher at Sanger Avenue Elementary School. All I remember her saying was, “Joe, go into the cloakroom until you learn how to live properly with the rest of the class.”